Pendant que la classe médiatique québécoise ergote au sujet de l’opportunité d’interdire ou non le port de signes religieux, il se passe à Toronto des choses qui devraient faire scandale – et faire réfléchir. La nouvelle ci-dessous en est un exemple.
Un organisme de services d’accueil aux immigrants, à Toronto, financé par le gouvernement fédéral, interdit à des employées de parler français sur les lieux de travail. Pas de scandale, une simple anecdote qui s’est glissée par hasard dans un grand article de l’édition de samedi du Toronto Star (17 avril 2010, A1) portant sur les plaintes pour discrimination traitées par le Tribunal des droits de la personne de l’Ontario.
L’histoire se serait déroulée comme suit. L’entreprise Audmax, financée par Citoyenneté et Immigration Canada, fournit des services d’accueil pour les femmes immigrantes. Elle exige que les employés soient bilingues (français et anglais) et affiche sur son site Internet un lien vers un site français…
inexistant. Une dame, Seema Saadi, porte plainte au Tribunal des droits de la personne de l’Ontario contre Audmax pour discrimination après avoir été congédiée injustement : une discrimination fondée sur les habitudes alimentaires et vestimentaires de Mme Saadi, selon le tribunal. (Mme Saadi portait le foulard islamique). Sa plainte est reçue et elle recevra un dédommagement de 36 000$ si l’appel d’Audmax est rejeté.
Parmi les employées d’Audmax, il y avait trois musulmanes, dont Mme Saadi. Toutes trois parlaient couramment l’anglais et le français, comme l’exigeait l’employeur. On peut présumer que les dames venaient de pays francophones, probablement de l’Afrique du Nord, peut-être même du Québec. Comme elles parlaient couramment les deux langues, elles avaient, semble-t-il, la fâcheuse habitude de parler français entre elles au travail. Selon le Toronto Star : « La tension a commencé à augmenter. Peu après, l’entreprise a adopté une nouvelle politique interdisant l’utilisation du français par les trois femmes musulmanes. La propriétaire de l’entreprise a expliqué devant le tribunal que l’interdiction avait pour objet de promouvoir de meilleures communications et un esprit d’équipe parmi les membres du personnel. » Évidence même, il faut pouvoir se communiquer, donc, le français est interdit parce que ce n’est pas de la communication.
Deux des trois femmes ont quitté l’emploi, mais ni le tribunal ni le journal torontois ne donne les raisons de leur départ. Par la suite, la troisième, Mme Saadi a été congédiée injustement, mais la décision du Tribunal est justifiée par d’autres considérations que l’interdiction du français.
Le congédiement injuste de Mme Saadi donne un haut-le-cœur. Mais la façon dont le Star et, semble-t-il, le Tribunal banalisent l’interdiction de parler français, surtout au sein d’une entreprise financée par le gouvernement du Canada et donc par les contribuables québécois, donne davantage la nausée.
Pour un instant, mettons-nous dans la peau de ces trois musulmanes francophones à Toronto. Elles doivent se sentir très seules ! Elles veulent se parler en français dans un pays qui se dit bilingue, mais se le font interdire. On sait qu’au Québec, ce ne serait pas le cas. Qu’elles viennent habiter au Québec, disons-nous! Nous les accueillerions à bras ouverts. Mais ces femmes musulmanes ne sont pas sans savoir que le Québec pourrait passer aussi à l’interdiction, vestimentaire celle-là. Donc, elles se trouvent doublement seules, voyant que le seul État qui peut vraiment défendre leurs droits linguistiques, le Québec, est obsédé non pas par la défense du français, mais par leur tenue vestimentaire.
Quand est-ce que, au Québec, nous allons reconnaître nos alliés, au lieu de les repousser ?
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Complaints overwhelm human rights watchdog
$15,000 'gypsy' slur: Coffee shop confrontation among countless tales of rampant racism, work discrimination
Moira Welsh Staff Reporter
Ontario's newly streamlined human rights watchdog is swamped with allegations of sex, race and disability discrimination, the Star has found.
"We are really overwhelmed by our volume of cases now," said Katherine Laird, the senior official whose job it is to support people who say they are victims. "Our phones are ringing off the hook."
The Ontario Attorney General created a new human rights system nearly two years ago, making it easier for people with claims to get a hearing before the Human Rights Tribunal of Ontario.
Laird's office, the Human Rights Legal Support Centre, helps claimants going before the tribunal, but its telephones are so jammed that staff answered just 57 per cent of the 38,579 calls it received in the year ending March 31.
Ontario Human Rights Commission chair Barbara Hall believes only a small number of cases are ever reported. "This is the tip of the iceberg," she says.
It is too soon to determine whether discrimination is on the rise or if this deluge is the effect of public awareness campaigns for the new system. But the Star's examination of at least 50 public cases and dozens of normally private mediated ones gives a stark picture of rampant racism and discrimination.
Tribunal decisions show that women, minorities and the disabled are most vulnerable to discrimination by employers, landlords and businesses. In some cases both the victim and the defendant belong to racial minorities but are from different backgrounds.
Some examples:
• The owner of a Coffee Time doughnut shop in Toronto's west end had to pay $15,000 to Zuper Direk, a customer she referred to as "gypsy," after telling him she didn't want Turks in her store.
The tribunal adjudicator for the case found that owner Sieu Yien Tay had repeatedly told Turkish customers that she did not like them and had accused Direk of spreading rumours about her coffee, saying, "You Turkish people go – don't make rumours; I hate Turkish people," before calling police to complain about a "Turkish" man.
Sieu Yien Tay declined to be interviewed.
• A black couple received $5,000 and a letter of apology after they were ignored at a restaurant they had gone to as part of a corporate training session.
After arriving, the couple were asked several times by restaurant staff if they were aware they were standing in a private function area. The couple twice showed them their tickets – and finally propped the tickets on their table.
The waitress ignored them but served drinks to all the white people at the table. Finally, a white person had to order drinks for them. Later, the manager tried to apologize for his staff's behaviour, saying the black couple was dressed better than the rest of the group and suggesting the woman looked like she could be a "lady of the night."
At the end of the evening, the manager stopped the couple at the elevators and tried to give them some souvenir boxes, which he said would be good for storing drugs. They told him they didn't use drugs. The manager insisted they take the boxes.
• A manager on maternity leave from a travel agency was awarded $27,500 in damages and lost earnings after her boss pressured her to step down, since "women who have children do not really want to be managers." The workplace she returned to after her leave was so hostile she eventually quit.
• A blind man received $80,000 in a negotiated settlement after the company he had worked at for 20 years refused to recall him after a short, temporary layoff.
• A black woman whose colleague taunted her with racial slurs won $15,000 through mediation. When she complained about the racist comments to her supervisor, he began to scrutinize her every move. She wrote a letter to the company president asking for help, and he fired her the next day.
THE NEW SYSTEM was created to clear away a massive backlog. Prior to June 2008, human rights complaints were vetted by the Ontario Human Rights Commission, which would decide which cases would be sent to the tribunal for hearing. It took years to investigate complaints and decide whether to pass them on to hearings or mediation.
In 2009, the tribunal received 3,400 new cases, a jump of more than 1,000 from the old system.
Now, the commission has a public education role, and any claims alleging a breach of the Ontario Human Rights Code go directly to the tribunal. Claimants can get free help from the legal support centre, though many opt for lawyers in private practice.
Change has been dramatic. Under the old system, there would be a final decision in only 15 hearings a year. Now, the tribunal is issuing decisions at least 15 times each month.
The Star began to look into the human rights cases after publishing the story of one recent case. Cheryl Khan's former boss at a Toronto trucking company called her a "Paki" and said her children were "half nigger babies," according to a recent tribunal decision.
The owner of the trucking company was forced to pay a $25,000 fine and take anti-discrimination training.
Khan's case worked its way through the tribunal within a year.
The Ontario Human Rights Code makes it illegal to discriminate against a person on 15 different grounds, including race, sex (including pregnancy), disability and sexual orientation. At least 75 per cent of all cases are work-related.
Human rights hearings are not as complex as court trials, but adjudicators, most of whom are lawyers, still make their decisions based on evidence, witnesses and credibility.
Favourable decisions are by no means guaranteed. Last year, according to tribunal figures, adjudicators decided in favour of the complainant in 19 of its new cases, and against in 34.
The other new 1,400 cases were deferred, dismissed or withdrawn.
A case might be perfectly valid but dismissed because it's currently before another body, such as a labour arbitration hearing or a civil court. Some are dismissed because they're filed a year or more after the alleged discrimination occurred. And many are withdrawn because both sides reach a settlement.
When the worker does succeed, the company usually agrees – at its own expense – to create anti-discrimination policies and hold training workshops for employees. These orders are an effort to stop future cases, making prevention a key part of the system.
SEEMA SAADI BROUGHT a case of discrimination "on the grounds of race, colour, ancestry, place of origin, ethnic origin, disability, creed and sex" against her employer, a company that ran a federally funded program created to help immigrant women settle in Canada.
Born in Toronto, Saadi graduated from York University with a degree in sociology and environmental studies. She is a Muslim woman of South Asian descent who wears a hijab.
In May 2008, Saadi landed her dream job as a bilingual intake worker for new immigrant women at a company called Audmax. According to the tribunal decision, she sensed immediately that there were problems among some employees, including two Muslim women who also worked there. Like Saadi, the two Muslims were fluent in French and English.
Saadi tried to stay quiet and fit in, she later told the tribunal, but felt "shaken" by comments about her culture and long, modest clothing.
The tension escalated. It wasn't long before a new office policy banned the use of French among the three Muslim women. Company owner Maxcine Telfer told the hearing that the intent of the ban was to promote better communication and collegiality among staff.
After the two other Muslim women quit, Saadi said she began to feel targeted and believed it was just a matter of time before she would be asked to leave.
Telfer watched her closely, Saadi said. At one point, she held a staff training session called "dress for success" during which she and other employees modelled their outfits to demonstrate proper office attire.
Telfer showed staff how a blazer could be used to dress up an outfit. She told them a woman could remove her blazer after work for a casual look, with a sleeveless blouse underneath. She recommended skirts and heels. Saadi wore a hijab and long, loose clothing. She told the hearing that she would have been very uncomfortable in the clothing Telfer recommended.
A new problem arose. After Telfer complained about the smell of Saadi's homemade lunch, which she had warmed in the microwave, a microwave food policy was created to ban certain meals.
In her testimony, Telfer admitted the types of food banned under her new policy were hard to pin down.
"You don't know until you smell," the company owner said.
In an interview, Saadi said she brought her lunch to work because it was cheaper and healthier, but after Telfer complained about the smell – she recalls that it was a curry – Saadi was afraid to use the microwave again.
Once, office workers were sharing a lunch and Saadi heated another employee's food without realizing it was spicy.
"I was so scared," she told the Star. "I was with a client but I was so worried that I would get in trouble."
Two months after Saadi started working at Audmax, Telfer fired her. She was reportedly not a good "organizational fit."
Saadi took her case to the tribunal and, with help from a lawyer at the legal support centre, won a $36,000 settlement against Audmax and Telfer.
The adjudicator ordered Telfer to take cultural and sensitivity training. She also had to get an independent expert to review Audmax's anti-discrimination practices.
Telfer, who represented herself at the hearing, told the Star she has hired a lawyer to appeal the decision. In an interview, her lawyer, Ted Charney, said his client was not allowed to call a key witness and did not get a fair hearing.
For her part, Saadi says she is pleased with the results but still troubled by what happened.
"I am not as idealistic as I once was. I don't understand why this is still happening when people are so educated now.
"It is a small victory. But I think life is made up of a lot of small victories. You always have to stand for the truth."
THE RECENT DECISION in the case of Marjorie Harriott v. National Money Mart Co. and Desmond Wade is an example of sexual harassment and a major corporation that did nothing to protect its workers.
According to the tribunal decision, Wade stared every day at the women who worked for him at the Money Mart outlet he managed, looking them up and down, his eyes settling on their breasts.
During a conversation with one worker, he stared at her chest until she told him, "I'm up here."
His eyes didn't shift.
Marjorie Harriott started working for Wade in April 2007, and during the time she was at the Danforth cheque-cashing outlet, at least three women complained to company supervisors about him.
Their stories were consistent. He brushed up against them when they bent over, he leered at them, and he made endless comments about their clothes and bodies.
Once, when a female employee arrived late to work and rushed into the washroom, he asked, "Is that sperm I smell?"
On one occasion, when a worker was inside the vault, Wade stood in the doorway, blocking the way with his arms against the frame. She yelled at him to let her out, but he kept her there for five minutes. Finally he moved aside and allowed her to pass by, although she had to brush against him to do so.
The women complained to Wade's female supervisor, who said they had to deal with him themselves. Later, when Harriott complained about him to Money Mart's human resources department, the same supervisor made it clear that she did not believe her.
Harriott is a single mother without an extensive education. She needed the customer service job at Money Mart. But she grew increasingly upset with her manager. When she needed help with a customer, Harriott had to call on Wade. He brushed up against her or placed his hand over her hand on the computer mouse.
Later, when she brought her sexual harassment case before the tribunal, Harriott testified that Wade bumped or "bounced" against her numerous times. She testified that Wade would say "oops" or "sorry."
Once, when she was bending over to get money from the safe in the vault, Wade pushed the front of his body against her bottom. She told the adjudicator he said: "I'm just waiting to go to the manager's safe." Wade denied this ever happened.
Each Money Mart employee wears a "panic button" around his or her neck, in case of an emergency or robbery. Just before Christmas of 2007, Harriott told the tribunal, Wade walked up and said, "Let me fix your panic button," as he massaged her neck and stared at her breasts. He walked away, then came back and hung the panic button over her neck.
"Try to wear something with a collar so the panic button won't chafe your skin," he said, according to the decision.
Harriott said she was upset for the rest of the day, couldn't deal with customers, and had a panic attack. Her stress grew and her performance at work deteriorated. She said she was vomiting and suffering from headaches and sleepless nights. She tried getting shifts at different branches in a bid to get away from Wade.
Harriott called a Money Mart human resources officer, who said he needed a letter before he would help. She sent him an email, and they arranged to meet.
He brought along Wades' supervisor, who had heard the earlier complaints from workers. Harriott testified that the supervisor kept asking, "Are you sure this is sexual harassment?" At the end of the meeting the supervisor agreed to transfer Harriott to another branch.
Harriott told the tribunal she felt ashamed and blamed herself for what happened. She was afraid she might lose her job because she had complained. She got the impression that the supervisor thought she should just tolerate Wade's behaviour and not speak out.
In the following months, her performance reports recorded low scores, although her marks were improving when the company received an angry email from a customer who complained about Harriott's bad service. Money Mart fired Harriott.
She took her case to the tribunal. In a decision released on Feb. 17, tribunal vice-chair Alan Whyte did not find she had been fired as a reprisal for her sexual harassment complaints. But he did rule that Harriott had been sexually harassed and ordered Money Mart and Wade to pay her $30,000.
Whyte said Money Mart had "completely failed" to investigate her complaints. He found "numerous references in the evidence to the derogatory, insulting and crude comments" and said they "created an uncomfortable, unwelcome, unprofessional, sexualized atmosphere."
In an interview, Wade said that he is innocent of all the allegations against him. "I am just a kid from the Caribbean who came to Canada for a better life, and look what happened to me," he said.
Money Mart was ordered to change its harassment policy and conduct training of all managers throughout Ontario.
In a statement, Larry Taylor, National Money Mart president, said the company supports the tribunal decision and will distribute its new harassment policies to all employees. "We sincerely regret that this happened," the statement read.
COMPLAINING ABOUT discrimination is not for the faint of heart.
"I think that most people will not pursue legal action," says Laird of the Human Rights Legal Support Centre.
"If you raise sexual harassment or racial harassment, you are almost certainly not going to be able to stay in the workplace, so you are putting your livelihood at risk."
Even those whose complaints result in a hearing are often scarred by the emotional experience, says Frances Henry, a retired York University professor and racism expert. She has testified at dozens of tribunal hearings.
"I have personally seen people whose lives have been totally destroyed by the attempt to fight their own victimization."
William David Smith sold used cars for Menzies Chrysler in Whitby until he was fired for complaining that a colleague – another salesman – had repeatedly exposed his penis to him while they were at work.
The sales staff worked out of a trailer at the back of the large dealership at Thickson Rd. and Highway 401. Smith and fellow salesman Tom Graham had the two best desks – at the front door, where they could see potential customers from the window.
According to the tribunal decision, Graham took delight in removing his clothes in the office and waving his penis at Smith, gyrating his hips and laughing at Smith's clear discomfort. He told Smith to perform oral sex on him.
Once, he stood in the room wearing nothing but cowboy boots, brandishing two hair dryers as if they were guns, thrusting his pelvis at Smith.
Smith complained, but his bosses did nothing. He moved his desk to a poorer location at the back of the trailer. He complained again, but managers defended Graham. Smith grew angry. His sales dropped. The company fired him.
Smith hired Whitby lawyer Paul McKeever.
It was an unusual case: sexual harassment involving two heterosexual men.
During a hearing last fall, Smith's lawyer told the adjudicator that if the Human Rights Code forbids that type of behaviour between a man and a woman, then the same standard should apply to two straight men.
"Mr. Smith was once a No. 1 salesman," McKeever said in an interview. "But after enduring this, his performance fell off."
It was a sexualized form of workplace bullying in a workplace that promoted aggressive male competition, McKeever said.
"My closing submissions were, you've got a guy (Graham) who is proud of his anatomy, he knows he's got Mr. Smith's number, he knows he's got him feeling bad. It's one of these, `I'm more manly than you are. You are beneath me.'
"If you want to undermine someone's ability to sell, you've got to undermine their masculinity."
After Smith launched his complaint, the company told police that he had not completed payments to them on the car he was driving. Theft and other charges were laid against him.
Smith said he had the bill of sale. As the tribunal's decision last fall reveals, the Crown attorney later dropped those charges after Smith agreed he would not sue the Crown, the police or Menzies Chrysler.
Smith was awarded $50,000 by the adjudicator, with responsibility for the payout to be shared by Graham, the company and its managers.
The tribunal ruled the company must create a new anti-harassment policy. No one has paid yet. Graham, who now works for a Newmarket used car company, and Menzies Chrysler are appealing the decision.
Graham said his lawyer told him not to comment. The Star left messages for Clark Menzies, who co-owns the dealership and was Graham's manager. He did not return the calls.
Smith says he can no longer find work in Whitby, where his wife and children live. He now flies out to British Columbia, where he drives a truck for weeks, then flies home.
"Am I bitter? he said in an interview. "You bet I am."
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Florent Marquis Répondre
2 mai 2010Il est assez ironique de constater qu'encore une fois, la grande ville qui s'affiche en exemple à suivre et qui représente l'état le plus avancé de la mise en oeuvre de la religion de la diversité se ferme à la deuxième langue en importance du Canada. Ça rappelle cette cette cérémonie des prix de la musique à Toronto il y a environ 2 ans où on n'avait pas télédiffusé la prestation de Claude Dubois sous prétexte que ça n'intéresse pas l'auditoire. Ce qui ne les empêche pas de venir nous faire la morale quand ça leur convient.
Archives de Vigile Répondre
29 avril 2010Une ministre fédérale de l'immigration de Paul Martin qui réclamait des danseuses nues cela n'avait choqué personne. La seule rue du centre ville de Montréal, la rue Sainte Catherine, qui autorise des commerces du nu alors que des familles se promènent la, ca ne dérange personne. Une ou deux femmes qui mettent des voiles pour se protéger de cette nudité et voila que des rabougris de tout part s'exclament haut et fort et parlent de liberté. Quelle liberté? celle qui déshonore la femme? Qui l'oblige a utiliser son corps pour vivre? Normalement on est choque seulement s'il y a un acte de violence ou de terreur envers autrui, la manière de s'habiller doit être personnelle et libre en démocratie. Mais de quelle démocratie il s'agit? Démocratie universelle ou sélective?
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25 avril 2010M. Philpot
Je dois vous dire que vous m’avez surpris et déçu. Dans vos écrits courageux vous nous aviez habitué à plus de rigueur et de réflexion. Qu’on refuse d’entendre parler le français à Toronto, c’est insultant pour nous bien sûr mais on peut s’y attendre. Je m’aperçois que ça n’a pas changé depuis les années ’60. En 1960, sur le trottoir à Toronto, un ami et moi, nous nous sommes fait insulter parce que nous parlions français : speak white. On pouvait aussi lire en graffitti, au Québec : USA has a negro problem, Canada has a french problem.
Ceci dit, cela ne veut pas dire que les musulmans ou autres religions peuvent venir nous imposer des manières de faire contraire à l’esprit de laïcité que nous voulons ici au Québec pour justement respecter les croyances de chacun et ainsi garder la paix sociale. Vous particulièrement, vous devriez savoir que ce n’est pas une question de mode. Je vous recommande fortement l’article qui vous est suggéré par M. Thompson sur le discours de Mme. Djemila BENHABIB, vous allez comprendre peut-être un peu mieux pourquoi nous ne voulons pas de ces accommodements.
Ivan Parent
Archives de Vigile Répondre
22 avril 2010Monsieur Philpot.
Je ne comprends pas comment vous pouvez faire une comparaison en prenant exemple sur l'Algérie en écrivant:
"Si on est pour un Québec libre, ce Québec doit être libre. Ce n’est pas le temps de commencer à interdire ceci et cela. Si l’Algérie a gagné son indépendance de la France, c’est parce que les Algériens on su faire l’alliance entre les laïcs et les musulmans, sans quoi ils n’auraient jamais gagné. La question : est-ce qu’on veut un Québec libre ? Si la réponse est oui, il faut savoir qui sont les adversaires et qui sont les alliés, et vivre avec les différences. C’est cet esprit qui a guidé les Patriotes, Louis Riel, Bourgault et les autres."
Quand on sait comment les choses ont fini par retourner dans ce pays, on ne peut être que sceptique, voire scandalisé.
À cet égard, je recommande à tous la lecture du discours lu au sénat français par Djemila Benhabib le mercredi 7 avril 2010 et dont on peut lire le texte sur Vigile Discours lu devant le Sénat français
Lettre lue au Palais du Luxembourg, le vendredi 13 novembre 2009, lors de la journée « Femmes debout », organisée par Femmes Solidaires et la Ligue du Droit international des Femmes
Djemila BENHABIB - L’Aut’Journal - www.lautjournal.info 7 avril 2010
Moi en tout cas, ça m’a plutôt convaincu du contraire de ce que vous affirmez.
Claude G. Thompson
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22 avril 2010Monsieur Philpot, j'apprécie que vous nous informiez d'une
manifestation francophobe de plus dans la métropole du ROC.
Vous auriez pu nous épargner, par contre, le reste de ces
pathologies, tant judiciaires qu'émotives, à moins que ce
ne soit pour nous faire bien voir que les 'commissions des
droits de l'homme' qui sévicent dans les provinces du ROC,
sont effectivement en train de détruire ce pays. Et cette
constation me fait le plus grand plaisir.
Claude Jodoin Ing.
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22 avril 2010M. Philpot,
Je ne comprends pas votre comparaison avec Toronto. Que vient faire Toronto dans ce dossier ? Vous subissez l'influence insidieuse des spécialistes mercenaires québécois de tous ordres qui n'ont de cesse de nous comparer avec la Canada anglais. Comme si nous ne pouvions pas exister par nous-mêmes...penser par nous-mêmes... Nous voyons poindre depuis quelques années un nouveau colonialisme qui nous vient du Canada anglais.
Et moi aussi, je veux les deux.
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21 avril 2010Si on est pour un Québec libre, ce Québec doit être libre. Ce n'est pas le temps de commencer à interdire ceci et cela. Si l'Algérie a gagné son indépendance de la France, c'est parce que les Algériens on su faire l'alliance entre les laïcs et les musulmans, sans quoi ils n'auraient jamais gagné. La question: est-ce qu'on veut un Québec libre? Si la réponse est oui, il faut savoir qui sont les adversaires et qui sont les alliés, et vivre avec les différences. C'est cet esprit qui a guidé les Patriotes, Louis Riel, Bourgault et les autres.
Caroline Moreno Répondre
21 avril 2010M. Philpot,
Pourquoi aurions-nous à choisir entre le français et la laïcité ? Nous voulons les deux. Nous voulons un pays où notre langue ainsi que l'égalité entre les hommes et les femmes seront respectées.
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21 avril 2010.
Le Kanada me dégoûte.
Profondément.
Serge Charbonneau Répondre
21 avril 2010Normal.
C'est tout à fait "normal".
Toronto protège sa langue menacée !!!
À moins que ce soit par mesure de sécurité ?
Ça me rappelle les gens de l'air.
Mais peu importe la raison, il est tout à fait normal que Toronto ne favorise pas l'utilisation de notre langue.
Après tout, Toronto est la capitale économique d'un pays ANGLOPHONE.
C'est plutôt chez nous, à Montréal, que nous devrions nous préoccuper du français.
Serge Charbonneau
Québec